Comments on: Club UNITY proposal gets denied

By: microfiche

microfiche — Wed, 28 Dec 2011 22:49:32 +0000

How can this happen? I love this school, but today I am ashamed to tell people where I go. Very bad! I am interested to hear the explanation for this.

By: Panjur

Panjur — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 21:00:12 +0000

To put it in another light, how would the community, the parents, the alumni, et cetera look at this if say, a Club UNITY to bring together white and non-white students was shot down? It’s the same type of discrimination, and by denying this club, Flagler College, Daniel Stewart and William Abare are all saying that they support discrimination, they support prejudice, and they do not support GBLT students at their college. These students support Flagler with tens of thousands of dollars a year, yet they are ignored.

By: şekilli nickler yazma

şekilli nickler yazma — Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:20:15 +0000

we can start to change ourselves and be more tolerant and compassionate about others and support unity.

By: dizi

dizi — Mon, 15 Aug 2011 12:02:12 +0000

The key word here is FAIR. Thanks for your thoughtful post!

By: perde

perde — Mon, 01 Aug 2011 06:16:52 +0000

How can this happen? I love this school, but today I am ashamed to tell people where I go. Very sad! I am interested to hear the explanation for this.

By: Magie

Magie — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:27:36 +0000

This kind of things happen all over the world so we no longer need to be surprised , instead we should do something about it, we can start to change ourselves and be more tolerant and compassionate about others and support unity.

By: Corporate Photographer in London

Corporate Photographer in London — Thu, 28 Jul 2011 18:32:30 +0000

OMG I can’rt believe they were still turning down the plans, thats crazy!!!! I see this post is nearingg on 4 years old, i do hope that they have sorted this issue out now!! – let me know. Mark

By: perde

perde — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 21:43:27 +0000

Great debate and I appreciate the opportunity to respond.

By: car id

car id — Mon, 04 Jul 2011 11:17:37 +0000

Being tolerant is one thing, but to promote such clubs is another.

By: Kerrie

Kerrie — Fri, 19 Nov 2010 09:16:22 +0000

I’m aware this post is 3 years old, and I agree with the comments on here that believe that all students should be treated equally no matter what their sexual orientation is. In my own work place we have a club where people can get together and discuss their issues with their sexuality within a safe environment, this club is heavily promoted throughout the work place and I honestly believe it has started to change peoples attitudes regarding sexuality.

I wonder if 3 years on whether the UNITY club finally go the agreement to go head because it is long overdue.

By: Trent

Trent — Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:05:33 +0000

The key word here is FAIR. Thanks for your thoughtful post!

By: Michael

Michael — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 23:44:03 +0000

LOL @ Terry’s comment

By: Sean

Sean — Fri, 09 Apr 2010 04:52:59 +0000

And Kim-

I completely agree with you. Thank you for your support in an effort to make a fair schooling environment for everyone.

To those opposing any positive comment-

It is not us forcing our “beliefs” onto you. Gay students do not have a gun to your head forcing you to attend these clubs.

By: Sean

Sean — Fri, 09 Apr 2010 04:39:19 +0000

I applied to Flagler this year expecting it to be like any other college in respect to student’s rights. To be completely honest, this isn’t about the conflicting views of whether gay students have the “choice” to be gay. Sexuality is not an overnight decision and cannot change like the weather. The lesson to be learned is that gay students will not change their lifestyle because of a few issues in the administration. I can personally admit that it isn’t a choice, but I respect the contrasting views of those that are shielded from the views of our current accepting society.

I am attending Flagler this year as a freshman, and I’m personally appalled that a club such as this “cannot be allowed”. The school seems to be extremely accepting of it’s students. I understand that the argument of gay rights is a dichotomy, but that should not get in the way of a support group for it’s students. Happy students make a happy college environment.

By: Veronica Holt

Veronica Holt — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 00:55:22 +0000

If students can’t be allowed to promote tolerance, how are they to be expected to go out in the real world and interact with a variety of others with different beliefs. I can only hope that one of these years, the administration will have a change of heart. Hopefully soon, the students will not have to fight this battle.

By: Veronica Holt

Veronica Holt — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 00:48:34 +0000

It is disheartening to see that Flagler students are still fighting this battle just to build a relationship of tolerance amongst themselves.

By: Kim H.

Kim H. — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:20:32 +0000

tol·er·ance

a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward those whose opinions, practices, race, religion, nationality, etc., differ from one’s own; freedom from bigotry.

Think about your beliefs…how you would feel if you were discriminated against because of them?

big·ot·ry

stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one’s own.

Wouldn’t it be nice to live in a world free from bigotry.

By: Kim H.

Kim H. — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:19:53 +0000

tol·er·ance

a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward those whose opinions, practices, race, religion, nationality, etc., differ from one’s own; freedom from bigotry.

Think about your beliefs…how you would feel if you were discriminated against because of them.

big·ot·ry

stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one’s own.

Wouldn’t it be nice to live in a world free from bigotry.

By: Stephanie Hicks

Stephanie Hicks — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:19:11 +0000

Andrew,
No one is forcing you to abandon your beliefs, club unity is promoting tolerance and that means tolerance of other peoples view points as well. If the presence of this club on campus would force anyone to abandon their beliefs couldn’t the same be said for the FOUR Christian clubs in existence. As an atheist my views are not compromised by the presence of these clubs or the schools use of prayer during events such as convocation and graduation. You must not be secure in your beliefs if the presence of a club could sway them so easily.

Club Unity is not about gay and lesbian activism, ITS ABOUT UNITY! [duh] “It is the goal of this organization to promote UNITY of all people regardless of their sexual orientation.” It is ridiculous that my High school had a GSA [gay, straight alliance] and that in a college where we are all supposed to be adults we don’t. I am absolutely disgusted in Flagler College’s administration for not approving such an important club especially in the year 2007.

Sincerely,
Stephanie Hicks.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:04:52 +0000

Students willingly attend this organization; in doing so, they submit to its governance. Part of what makes America so great is that we ‘vote’ for organizations by buying their products or reject them by going elsewhere. If a person is truly outraged by this organization, a vote of no confidence is achieved by not contributing or leaving altogether.

I am a product of this school, so I know first-hand. I have never been so discriminated against in my life by the same type of individuals wanting to form this club (many of whom wanted to start the first). Make no mistake-this organization doesn’t aim to “promote a positive image.” It wants to force acceptance. Acceptance necessitates rejection of some other set of beliefs. Therefore, in demanding tolerance of your beliefs, I am being forced to abandon mine.